Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/03/2008 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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+= SB 229 TANANA VALLEY FOREST/MINTO FLATS REFUGE TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 229 Out of Committee
+= SB 256 SUPPLEMENTAL/CAPITAL APPROPRIATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 256(FIN) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 229                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating  to the Tanana Valley  State Forest and                                                                   
     to assignment of certain  forest land to the Minto Flats                                                                   
     State  Game  Refuge;  and  providing  for  an  effective                                                                   
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman related that the purpose today was to hear                                                                     
the bill and allow public testimony.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:18:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR JOE THOMAS, SPONSOR, read the sponsor statement.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Senate  Bill 229  amends  the boundaries  of the  Tanana                                                                   
     Valley State  Forest (TVSF)  to correct errors  in legal                                                                   
     descriptions,  reflect  updated   land  status,  and  to                                                                   
     better match the management  intent for the Forest. This                                                                   
     is done  by adding and  deleting boundary  references to                                                                   
     the legal descriptions in  statute. These changes result                                                                   
     in a net  increase to the state forest  of approximately                                                                   
     40,000  acres. SB  229  also moves  approximately  4,300                                                                   
     acres  from the state  forest to  the Minto Flats  State                                                                   
     Game Refuge.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     In 1983,  the Legislature created the  1.8 million-acre4                                                                   
     Tanana Valley  State forest  that stretches  from Manley                                                                   
     to   Tok.  The  forest   is  open   to  mining,   gravel                                                                   
     extraction,  oil  and  gas  leasing,  and  grazing.  The                                                                   
     Department  of  Natural   Resources  manages  the  state                                                                   
     forests for  a sustained yield of these  resources, with                                                                   
     the   primary   purpose   of   timber   management   (AS                                                                   
     41.17.200).  The Bonanza  Creek  Experimental Forest,  a                                                                   
     12.400-acre  area dedicate3d  to  forestry research,  is                                                                   
     also located within the state forest.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     State forests  provide fish and wildlife  habitat, clean                                                                   
     water,  opportunities for  recreation  and tourism,  and                                                                   
     minerals.  In  addition   to  the  management  of  these                                                                   
     resources,  the Tanana Valley  State Forest  offers many                                                                   
     recreational opportunities  including hungt6in, fishing,                                                                   
     trapping,  camping, hiking,  dog mushing,  cross-country                                                                   
     skiing, wildlife viewing,  snow machining, gold panning,                                                                   
     boating and berry-picking.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     In 1996,  the division updated  the Tanana  Valley State                                                                   
     Forest  Management  Plan  and  established  a  citizens'                                                                   
     advisory  committee.  The 12-member  citizen's  advisory                                                                   
     committee,  representing   a  variety  of  state  forest                                                                   
     users, actively  participates in forest planning  in the                                                                   
     Tanana   Basin.    This   entity   has    endorsed   the                                                                   
     recommendations  on  management of  the  forest and  has                                                                   
     carefully crafted the changes  in a manner that resulted                                                                   
    in support from all affected land users and owners.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     SB  229   is  supported  by  the  Alaska   State  forest                                                                   
     Association,   the   Fairbanks    Economic   Development                                                                   
     Corporation,  hunting and recreation  groups as  well as                                                                   
     all surrounding land owners.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Please  join  me in  amending  the Tanana  Valley  State                                                                   
     Forest  to better  align  with its  original intent  and                                                                   
     support the passage of Senate Bill 229.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:21:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  requested an  explanation of the  map (copy                                                                   
on file).                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:21:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  related that the  Division of  Forestry would                                                                   
be better able to provide the map explanation.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:22:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dyson noted  that Fiscal  Note  #1 reflects  100,000                                                                   
acres  being  added  and  approximately  66,000  acres  being                                                                   
deleted. He was curious as to  what is being deleted and why.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:22:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas mentioned that  the Division of Forestry would                                                                   
be better at explaining the deletions and additions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:23:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GRIER  HOPKINS,  STAFF,  SENATOR  THOMAS,  offered  that  two                                                                   
representatives  from the  Division of  Forestry were  online                                                                   
and ready to speak on the subject.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:24:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHRIS  MAISCH,  DIRECTOR  AND  STATE  FORESTER,  DIVISION  OF                                                                   
FORESTRY  (Testified  via teleconference),  referred  to  the                                                                   
enclosed map  (copy on  file). He pointed  out, in  the upper                                                                   
left side  of the  map at  the Minto  Wildlife Refuge,  three                                                                   
parcels  in orange  as  proposed  deletions from  the  Tanana                                                                   
State  Forest  to  be transferred  into  the  Minto  Wildlife                                                                   
Refuge.  He  explained  that  as  wetlands  they  are  better                                                                   
managed  by the  wildlife refuge.  He indicated  that in  the                                                                   
extreme left  (orange half-circle) there  is an oxbow  of the                                                                   
Tolovana  River  which  has good  quality  timber  but  being                                                                   
isolated from the rest of the  state forest, it better suited                                                                   
to be  put in  the refuge. On  the extreme  east side  of the                                                                   
refuge  there  a light  green-colored  parcel  is a  proposed                                                                   
addition into the Tanana State  Forest. The Dunbar Trail goes                                                                   
through  this area and  continues into  the Refuge  requiring                                                                   
some access management coordination.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:26:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Maisch  indicated a yellow  portion, 4B, will  be removed                                                                   
from  the Tanana  State  Forest.  It is  mostly  recreational                                                                   
making it difficult  to manage for commercial  forestry uses.                                                                   
Mr. Maisch described in the middle  of the map, the Big Delta                                                                   
area, there are light green parcels.  These parcels, south of                                                                   
7A and  7B and north  of Fort Greely  will be additions  into                                                                   
the Tanana  State Forest. Mr.  Maisch indicated that  a small                                                                   
parcel  on  the  Good  Pasture  River  drainage,  part  of  a                                                                   
research natural area will also  be added to the Tanana State                                                                   
Forest.  Near Dot  Lake (between  10D  and 12B)  a number  of                                                                   
parcels scattered around the area  are intermixed with native                                                                   
corporation lands  and the Tanana  State Forest.  This change                                                                   
will clean  up the boundaries  and make them  more consistent                                                                   
with the ownership in the area.   Mr. Maisch pointed out that                                                                   
in the regions close to Tok, near  13A and 13B, in the Tanana                                                                   
State  Forest  just  north  of  the  Tanana  River,  are  all                                                                   
productive  forest lands.  Mr. Maisch  indicated that  to the                                                                   
north  of  these  regions,  in yellow,  12A,  13A,  13B,  are                                                                   
proposed deletions to the Tanana  State Forest. These parcels                                                                   
are more  appropriately  managed as general  use state  lands                                                                   
since they do not have any large  concentration of productive                                                                   
forests. Mr.  Maisch continued  that north of  these regions,                                                                   
in yellow (12A) and light green  the land would be transposed                                                                   
to  correct  an  earlier legal  drafting  error.  Mr.  Maisch                                                                   
concluded  by  saying one  of  the  reasons the  Division  of                                                                   
Forestry  would like  to see  the state  forest additions  is                                                                   
they  have  been  working  with   alternative  energy  plans,                                                                   
particularly  bio-energy  and wood  fuel.  He mentioned  that                                                                   
projects in Tok,  Delta, and several smaller  villages in the                                                                   
area are  looking at  wood boiler  systems for space  heating                                                                   
needs in village  and community schools. Mr.  Maisch stressed                                                                   
that having a  near-by working forest to  provide sustainable                                                                   
wood to those communities is very important.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:31:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  questioned if  there was anyone  who wished                                                                   
to speak  to the bill. Mr.  Hopkins indicated that  there had                                                                   
been no objection from any of  the surrounding communities in                                                                   
regard  to  the  changes  in   this  bill.  Co-Chair  Stedman                                                                   
inquired as  to the  public process  used in determining  the                                                                   
additions  and   deletions.  Mr.  Hopkins  referred   to  the                                                                   
Division of Forestry online.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:32:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARTHA   FREEMAN,   FORESTRY   RESOURCES   PROGRAM   MANAGER,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT  OF   FORESTRY  (Testified  via   teleconference),                                                                   
explained the public process by  stating that the main review                                                                   
for  this  project  began when  updating  the  Tanana  Valley                                                                   
Forestry Management  Plan, which  culminated in an  update in                                                                   
2001.  As  part  of the  preparation  for  that  update,  the                                                                   
package of  proposed additions  and deletions  went out  as a                                                                   
public  draft.  The participants  in  discussion  included  a                                                                   
citizens' advisory committee,  an inter-agency planning team,                                                                   
and public  meetings throughout  the Tanana Valley  area. Ms.                                                                   
Freeman noted that when public  comments were received, there                                                                   
had  been  a   few  parcels  that  generated   objections  or                                                                   
controversy, so  these parcels  were deleted from  this plan.                                                                   
She informed  the committee that  the final package  for this                                                                   
bill had no  objections remaining after this  public process.                                                                   
Ms.  Maisch informed  the  committee that  as  some time  had                                                                   
passed  since  the original  public  feedback,  the  division                                                                   
questioned  special interest  groups and  landowners to  make                                                                   
sure there were  no new problem since the  original meetings.                                                                   
The  division also  checked  on the  present  land status  to                                                                   
locate any  possible land changes.  When changes  were found,                                                                   
some  parcels   were  deleted,   primarily  concerning   land                                                                   
transferred to the University.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:35:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson wondered if there  had been any objections from                                                                   
the  native corporations.  Ms.  Freeman  responded there  had                                                                   
been  no  objection  from  the   native  communities  on  the                                                                   
reorganization.  She  mentioned  one concern  of  the  native                                                                   
communities  was access areas  in the  Minto region,  but the                                                                   
reorganization does not change the access to these lands.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:35:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JERRY MCCUTCHEON, ANCHORAGE, (Testified  via teleconference),                                                                   
questioned if this plan followed  the best use of Mat-Su area                                                                   
in taking down  all the timber. He recommended  that the land                                                                   
remain intact and not be logged.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:38:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman pointed out for  the record the pulp mill in                                                                   
Sitka did  not ship  round logs to  Japan. He explained  that                                                                   
round logs are shipped off of  private land, including native                                                                   
land, and the Mental Health Trust lands.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:39:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Thomas  MOVED to  REPORT SB  229 from Committee  with                                                                   
individual  recommendations   and  the  accompanying   fiscal                                                                   
notes. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SB  229  was  REPORTED  from   Committee  with  a  "do  pass"                                                                   
recommendation  and previously  published  fiscal notes  from                                                                   
the Department  of Natural  Resources  and the Department  of                                                                   
Administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE:       9:40:30 AM                                                                                                     
RECONVENED:    10:49:24 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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